Saturday, June 26, 2010

TROPICAL STORM ALEX GUNNING FOR BROWNSVILLE - NOT ANYMORE

UPDATE:  As I noted the pattern appeared to be showing moving southward upon landfall.  The latest predictions have it coming ashore will south of Brownsville.  BV will keep an eye on the storm.

This storm has changed its course several times.  It appears to have a movement southward.  It would not suprise me if by tomorrow the center of the cone is pointing to Mexico.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

The following is not dispositive of the teenagers role in his own death, but this was alluded to in a previous debate and you had dismissed this as irrelvant.

Teen shot by Border Patrol had smuggling arrests

Jun 26, 1:16 AM (ET)

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL
EL PASO, Texas (AP) - A 15-year-old Mexican boy shot and killed by a U.S. Border Patrol agent was among El Paso's most wanted juvenile immigrant smugglers, according to federal arrest records reviewed by The Associated Press.

The records show Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereca had been arrested at least four times since 2008 and twice in the same week in February 2009 on suspicion of smuggling illegal immigrants across the U.S.-Mexico border. Hernandez was repeatedly arrested along the U.S. side of the border near downtown El Paso, not far from where he was killed, but was never charged with a crime by federal prosecutors.

BobbyWC said...

I never dismissed it - I simply noted that as to the facts at the scene it does not justify the agents actions.

No one disputes the agent lied about what happened.

But here is your ill conceived logic - anyone one with this persons record should be shot dead by our agents regardless of the facts at the time of the shooting.

Your logic reflects an incredible level of ignorance of our system of law or a deep seated hate for those at war with the US along our border.

Anonymous said...

What? We aren't allowed to hate those at war with the US? Can we still hate the Nazis or the Japs?

Fred Drew said...

It is genuinely doubtful that the officer knew the persons name or even how old he was.
The only thing that counts is: could he genuinely believe that his life was in danger.......
In my personal experience, a young person came at me with a tire iron at a crossing where we had just found a large amount of marijuana.
I was holding a loaded shotgun but he still came. Fortunately, another officer discretely came on the scene, distracted him and subdued him.
What do you do? I didn't know if he was involved or how old he was - even so, if he was 14 or 18 would it have made me less dead or crippled?
The issue is; is the local known to be a place where crimes are frequent or shootings / attacks commonplace, did the young person attack the officer with intent to do deadly harm; or did the officer have reason to believe his life was in jeopardy.
I would suspect that OPR will evaluate that.

Anonymous said...

(Your logic reflects an incredible level of ignorance of our system of law or a deep seated hate for those at war with the US along our border.)

Bobby, so you duly admit that the US is in a state of war with criminals south of the border, or are you just sobering up from last night? By the way, I did not post the the 1st post. Just somebody else who obviously understands what we are up against.
Ren.

BobbyWC said...

Hate is not the issue, it is when you use the hate to justify reckless conduct that is the issue

Bobby WC

Anonymous said...

(OPR will evaluate that.)

Office of personal responsibility. Not only are they investigating, the FBI is there to. But according to Bobby, if you got a badge, you're lying. Huh, Bobby?
Ren.

BobbyWC said...

ren. obviously you have no interest in what I write just an interest to distract -

now some facts

In my Memorial Day post I noted we needed to include the BP in our memories because they are fighting on the front line of this war.

In my post just last week over the reconquista comment my entire point is - Mexico and the undocumented workers have nothing to do with this war.

Ren you do not help yourself with your posts - you only prove you are incredibly biased or dishonest.

I have been clear for some time this is a war.

And as any of my regular readers know I do not drink - and most nights am in bed by 10 pm - I have been that way since before my college days (although UTEP did see me get drunk on occasion)
Bobby WC

BobbyWC said...

Ren, you can spin all you want - my regular readers know I always come to the defense of law enforcement, except when they lie

The lie is not disputed - the BP and FBI have neither disputed the tape which shows the office lied

But beyond that I am convinced we had our own camera on the bridge - if we did not then Napalitano needs to be fired.

The BP new almost immediately the BP agent lied.

This actually hurts the super majority of the agents who are doing their best to fight a near impossible war

BObby WC

Anonymous said...

BWC,

It does not justify the agents actions, but it certainly puts things into context.

Your statemenbt that "No one disputes the agent lied about what happened" is very "ill conceived". You saw A GLIMPSE of a scene on video and have rushed to a conclusion because your judgment is clouded by racism.

At no point is anyone saying that persons with a record should be shot dead, but you have taken the letter B, the letters M, and the letter T and made a conclusive alphabet.

BobbyWC said...

No one with BP or the FBI is disputing the accusacy of the tape- only people like you who were not there.

If the BP agent were to come out and dispute the tape then I would say - okay let's wait for the evidence - but he has not.

He knows as well as I do our own cameras on the bridge are going to tell the story.

People like you who need to hate and promote ignorance are going to believe what ever gets in your mind regardless of the evidence - ity is people like you who found Pat Almighty not guilty

had this agent come out and said - the tape is incomplete and misleading then I would have said we must now wait for all of the evidence

the government put out his alleged criminal history because it knew it could rely on people like you to use it as a distraction -

Bobby WC

Anonymous said...

(TROPICAL STORM ALEX GUNNING)

Headed directly into Mexico. Oh, we'll get some rain. We'll lose power. That's about it.
Ren.

Anonymous said...

You need to update your tracking map, Bobby. My earlier forecast was correct. Headed southern Mexico. No wind, some rain forecast for Browntown.
Ren.

BobbyWC said...

you need to learn to read - look to my update which tells the readers the original position changed.

Now I assume my readers are smart enough to lick on the left to see its current track.

I keep the original picture because I do not lie changing things once posted - hence the update and TWO

if you have been really tracking the system you know that the high pressure zone over the SE is changing which is why the storm in now tracking further up the Mexican coast than it was yesterday.

If the HP zone weakens more the storm could actually still hit Brownsville. If the HP zone gets stronger the storm could turn inland to Mexico real fast.

Bobby WC

Anonymous said...

(enough to lick on the)

I will learn to read when you learn to spell. Just kidding, Bobby. I know it's your blog. As a matter of fact, if I had a blog, you would be automatically banned. LOL.
Ren.

Anonymous said...

(enough to lick on the)

I will learn to read when you learn to spell. Just kidding, Bobby. I know it's your blog. As a matter of fact, if I had a blog, you would be automatically banned. LOL.
Ren.

Anonymous said...

ay Dios mio cuanto odio

Fred Drew said...

I can suggest with some certainty that there are cameras at all border crossings that are both automatic and staff directed. I believe all ports were fitted in the early 1990's, well before I retired.
It has been rare that OPR has gone to bat for an individual agent, the last incident where there were no videos the two agents went to prison in spite of genuine questions.
Having been in decisive situations and having been a supervisor credence needs to be given to the circumstances.
High probability of violence, the local and expectations, presence or absence of backup, recent experience in the area and lastly - what was included in the pre-shift briefings....
Without an understanding of all of that whether the shooting was righteous or not is impossible.
Even then experienced officers occasionally screw up and fall back on the saying better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6..